
I had a friend once tell me that he was so shattered by the grief of losing his beloved cat that he wasn’t ever going to get another pet. I think all of us who have loved and lost our faithful companions can relate to the powerful emotion behind that sentiment.
I love the podcast conversation that Vicki Atkinson and I had with Lauren Scott because she provides us a beautifully written roadmap through the intense emotion that comes with losing our pets. Her beautiful book King Copper is such a heart-warming celebration of our furry friends.
In this heartfelt episode, Lauren Scott shares her journey of grief and healing after the loss of her beloved dog, Copper. Through poetry, she found a way to express her emotions and honor Copper’s memory, culminating in her book ‘King Copper.’
Our conversation explores the deep bond between pets and their owners, the process of creating a tribute, and the importance of allowing oneself to grieve. Lauren also tells us about her future projects, including a children’s book about camping experiences, highlighting the ongoing journey of love and remembrance.
Takeaways
The love for pets is unconditional and deeply impactful.
Lauren Scott wrote poetry to cope with the loss of her dog Copper.
The book ‘King Copper’ is a tribute to the joy and grief of pet ownership.
Writing poetry provided Lauren with a cathartic outlet for her emotions.
The process of creating the book helped Lauren feel connected to Copper.
Grief has no timeline, and it’s okay to take time to heal.
The book includes joyful poems as well as those reflecting grief.
Lauren’s experience resonates with many pet owners who face similar losses.
The importance of honoring the memory of beloved pets through storytelling.
Lauren’s next project is a children’s book about camping experiences.

Here’s a clip of Lauren reading her beautiful poem in honor of Copper, March to March.
Here are some ways you can listen and watch to the full episode:
- The podcast player embedded below
- Click to view in browser: Episode 127: King Copper with Lauren Scott
- Subscribe to Sharing the Heart of the Matter on Spotify, Amazon Music, Apple Podcasts or Pocketcasts
- Subscribing to the YouTube channel: @SharingtheHeartoftheMatter.
Links for this Episode:
Lauren’s blog: Baydreamer Writes
From the Hosts:
Vicki’s book about resilience and love: Surviving Sue; Blog: https://victoriaponders.com/
Wynne’s book about her beloved father: Finding My Father’s Faith; Blog: https://wynneleon.com/
What a touching episode. Yes, I needed tissues too. Such a wonderful book. I loved it so much. Well done, Lauren, and both of you for bringing this book to light.
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Thanks so much for your lovely words and support, Darlene. It really means a lot, and since you’re a dog mom, you know all about the emotions. Wynne and Vicki are the best! ❤️
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They certainly are the best. ❤️❤️
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What a lovely comment! I couldn’t agree more about the tissues. Thanks for tuning in, Darlene!
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So much to love in this chat with Lauren. Copper lives on in so many of our hearts. 💝💝💝
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Vicki, you and Wynne are treasures. And Copper is wagging his tail with all the loving attention. Hugs to you both! 🥰🩷🌈
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Hugs and love back atcha, Lauren! 😊💝😊
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Oh, I love the idea of Copper wagging his tail right now. Thank you so much, Lauren! ❤
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So much love!! Perfectly said, my friend!! ❤ ❤ ❤
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Much love to you both. 🧡🤎🌈🤗
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Congratulations to Lauren.
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Thanks so much, Robbie! ❤️
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Thanks, Robbie!
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Dear Wynne and Vicki,
What can I say that I haven’t said already? A huge thanks to you both for inviting me to chat with you about Copper on your podcast. I know he’s smiling, getting so much attention. We all had our emotional moments, but without those, where is the authenticity? My glasses are goofy, so lesson learned. 🙂 Also, thanks again for reading my special book. It means so much to me and my family. Lots of love and many hugs to you both! ❤️🥰🌈
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We absolutely loved this conversation with you, Lauren! Thank you for sharing this beautiful book and your amazing and delightful Copper!
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I feel the same, Wynne! It was an honest and real conversation, and you both set the tone for a relaxing environment. Thank you again! ❤️
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A podcast conversation, a book…from the heart. Praise to you, Lauren and to sweet Copper. Ever in all of our hearts…thanks to you. xo 💝
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“A conversation, a book…ever in all of our hearts” Thank you so much, Vicki! ❤️🌈
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My pleasure. ❤️❤️❤️
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XOXOXO ❤️🤎🧡
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Beautiful podcast .
Thank you Wynne, Vicki and Lauren ❤️🥰❤️
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Thanks so much, Maggie. Wynne and Vicki are wonderful, and your support on this journey has meant a lot too. ❤️🌈🤗
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I agree, Wynne and Vicki are so lovely .
They know the right questions to ask!
My pleasure Lauren, always 🥰❤️🌻
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XOXOXOX ❤️🤗❤️
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Thank you so much for tuning in, Maggie! Lauren is delightful!
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My pleasure Wynne.
Lauren is a beautiful soul and I was happy to see her talk about Copper.
Best to you all 🙏
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Much love to you, Maggie! We are all part of the Lauren and “King Copper” fan club…and I’m sending hugs and jelly tots to you! 💝😊💝
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Yes we are Vicki 🥰
Thank you so much ❤️ jelly tots and warm hugs back to you my friend!
I hope all went well this week ? xo
Or have I got my dates mixed?
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You are so thoughtful! And what a memory! Yes…everything was great! I’ll post about it on Sunday. Thank you for your good vibes, Maggie love! 🥰❤️🥰
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Aww I am happy to hear that my friend xo
I look forward to Sunday to hear your news🥰
Vicki, my pleasure 💖🙏 always.
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Love you, Maggie! I think you, especially, will understand a little insight I gleaned from the event. Xo! ❤️
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Yes, we are on the same page Vicki 💙
Love you too dear heart xo
Hugs.🫂
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Big hugs to you, Wynne, Vicki, and Maggie! I’m humbled that you’re all a part of the King Copper fan club. And I’m beyond appreciative! XOXO ❤️🌈🤗
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In a world of loneliness, anger and uncertainty, pets offer an irreplaceable bond. Lauren has done us a service, showing us that sometimes our pets display a nobility, kindness, goodness, and touch that says, “There is still good in the world.” Thank you , all three.
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Wow, Dr. Stein – you just got to the heart of it all with this great comment. Thank you!
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Dr. Stein, I agree with Wynne. Our pets really do show us that there is good in the world in spite of what the news portrays. This is why it’s so hard to ‘say goodbye’ when that day comes. Thanks so much for your thoughtful words. I truly enjoyed this conversation with Wynne and Vicki.
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“An irreplaceable bond”…yes, indeed. Thank you, dear Dr. Stein. 💝
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Thanks, Wynne and Vicki, for sharing such a touching “HEART of the matter” podcast with Lauren Scott. I have a 12-year-old chocolate lab granddog that I spoil with treats whenever I visit. I can relate to Lauren’s heartbreak when having to decide whether to help a suffering four-legged family member pass on. It truly is devastating. Lauren’s poetry sounds like it would be cathartic for pet owners who have loved and lost.
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Thank you for tuning in, Nancy! I love that you have a chocolate lab granddog and that you spoil that dear dog! You are right, it’s truly devastating but we are so lucky to have such wonderful presences in our lives!
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Thanks so much for your lovely words, Nancy, and please give your granddog a hug for me. When our lovable dogs cross over the rainbow bridge, it’s so heartbreaking. But like Wynne said, we are lucky to have the precious time with them. Thanks again! ❤️
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You’re welcome, Lauren. 🐶😁🐶
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Cathartic! Exactly, Nancy. 💝 I think “King Copper” belongs on every family’s bookshelf. Lauren’s book is beautiful, beautiful and quite the comfort. 💝
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Such an endearing interview, thank you for introducing us to Lauren Scott . 💞💞 We lost our beautiful calico kitty cat several years ago, and I can’t bear the thought of getting another. We had Angelica for 16 years and she was the most amazingly brilliant individual. 🐈🐱
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Oh Rose…that’s how we feel. I don’t think I could bear the loss again. Thank you so much for your kind words about Lauren’s “King Copper” podcast. Much love! 💝
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Thanks for your kind words about the interview, Rose, and I’m so sorry to hear about your calico kitty. I understand how you feel though. We’ve always had dogs, so this is the first time without a canine family member. We probably will adopt again in the future when the time is right, but right now, I’m not sure if I can go through the heartbreak again. My heart isn’t ready yet, so I think time will tell. Thanks again! ❤️
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Sitting in the airport right now as we prepare to fly to South Dakota to see our son, daughter-in-law, and grandson. I’ll check back in the next day or two to listen in. Hopefully, with all of the craziness of travel, this all works out today.
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Sending our best wishes for a safe travel day, Pete. 💝
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Safe and smooth travels, Pete. Thanks so much! 🧡🌈
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What a touching and powerful interview! Cooper touched so many hearts. I used poetry after I lost our last dog, Sara to work through it. It really helps and this book opened the conversation on it. Xo
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Thanks for listening, Denise, and for your wonderful support. I’m sorry to hear about Sara, but it’s comforting to have poetry help us through the grief. ❤️🤎🌈
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Denise…love your comment…about “King Copper” opening the conversation to work through grief. It’s why I think Lauren’s book belongs in every family library. Thank you so much. 💝
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Loved this chat. Every time Lauren mentioned the amber eyes, I got choked up. If I were ever to get a dog, it would be a chocolate lab. 🤎
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Thanks so much, Michelle. Those eyes connected us from the start. 🤎🧡🌈
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Yes, Michelle! His beautiful face…those gorgeous eyes. I can’t imagine a better cover shot than the one Lauren chose. I love having Copper sitting near me, here at my desk. xo! 💝
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I’m so grateful for your love and support, Vicki. ❤️🤗🌈
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Aww…my pleasure. You know that. 💝
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I know 🥰😘❤️
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what a beautiful conversation to hear on such a beautiful fall day. I love Lauren’s writing and the way she dealt with her grief and paid tribute to her beloved family pet, Copper, is a wonder to behold. we all find a way, and we don’t even always know what that path will be when we begin, but this is so inspirational, and gives hope to us all to finding our way through love and loss.
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What a beautiful comment, Beth. Thanks so much! It was wonderful to chat with Wynne and Vicki even though the subject was bittersweet. I love when you wrote “gives hope to us all to finding our way through love and loss.” I appreciate your kind words and support. ❤️🌈
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You have such a way with words, Beth. Yes – inspirational, hopeful – for all of us who experience love and loss. Thank you so much for your praise for Lauren’s beautiful book. Big hugs to you, dear one. 💝
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Such a heart warming, emotional, loving, happy sad, memory filled post and video. I think my tears were for all the pets we loved and lost throughout our 55 year marriage and even before. Each hold a special place in our hearts. There are often those days that hit us out of the blue, even after many years have passed, resulting in floods of tears.
Here’s to the beautiful “King Copper” whose book will definitely be on my Christmas list.
Lauren, Vicki, and Wynne – thank you for making me cry. 😊🥰
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Thanks so much for your lovely words, Margaret. It sounds like you’ve had a similar life with dogs as my husband and me. We’re close to celebrating 37 years, so not quite to 55 which is so inspiring, but many, many years with loving dog companions. Yes, tears and I have had a close relationship this year. Sigh. Love and loss. Thank you also for adding King Copper to your Christmas list. I hope the poems bring comfort even through some tears. I’m so grateful to Wynne and Vicki for inviting me again into their beautiful podcast world. ❤️🌈🌷
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Margaret…we love you! Thank you for your kindness…the recognition you share of how dear and treasured our pets are. Special places in our hearts. Oh my, yes. “King Copper” is one of a kind…as is our dear Lauren. Sending hugs to you. 💝💝💝
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Oh, I love this episode of Copper and Lauren sharing her book with you both being dog lovers as am I. There is nothing like the love of an animal that gives their unconditional love to us. For me, it’s all of my animals from dogs, to cats, to parrots, to pigs and I so relate and know after having so many animals that live in my heart. I love Lauren’s honest exploration of feelings and emotions and both of yours. You all have hearts that reach out and touch us. Great episode!
“To have an animal is to know that joy of living and to be held in a space of grace!
xoxoxoxoxo”
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Thanks very much for your wonderful words, Cindy! I appreciate your support and love what you wrote about “all of my animals.” Even though King Copper is about our dog, I feel that the emotions in my poetry will resonate with any pet parents. If those pets bring unconditional love…well, enough said. 🙂 Thanks again, my friend. ❤️🧡🌈
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I love your point, Cindy, about Lauren’s bravery and honesty about the torturous decision. Thank you so much for your beautiful comment. It matters! 💝
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As someone who has been enjoying 30 years of Airedale Terriers (otherwise known as our fur-children) this podcast was very poignant to me. Yes, the grieving process is not linear – it comes in waves. This podcast leaves ripples of kindness and comfort, thank you all!
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Thanks so much, Mary, for your kind words and for taking the time to listen. You definitely understand the emotions. And I love your takeaway of “ripples of kindness and comfort.” ❤️🌈
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Love your point about grieving being less-than-linear, Mary. So true. Thank you for your kind words about Lauren’s beautiful book and podcast. She’s amazing! 💝
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This was a tender conversation to listen to on the first snowfall day in our part of the world. A beautiful life experienced together with Copper and what a lucky dog and a lucky family. Pets are family and make a lasting impact in our hearts and lives. 🙏💕 Life certainly can be unpredictable and that day at home sounds so gut wrenching. But ultimately the kindest decision to make to let our pets go in peace and without pain.
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Thanks for your thoughtful comment, Ab. And the first snowfall sounds beautiful. I appreciate your time, and your’e right, that day was gut wrenching, but so was the thought of Copper suffering. We did the right thing, but we also questioned our decision in the days that followed. Part of the raw grief in the very beginning. Anyway, I love this conversation with Wynne and Vicki. And I know Copper is smiling from all the love. Thanks again.
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You are so right, Ab…the kindest decision but also incredibly gut wrenching, as you said. Thank you so much for your supportive words about “King Copper” and Lauren’s beautiful podcast. xo! 💝
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Thank you, Wynne and Vicki for this heartfelt and touching episode. Dearest Lauren, I needed tissues, and felt for you, as all of us who have said loving farewells to our beloved furry buddies, feel for you. 🧡 Your book honours Copper beautifully. Your boy was so special. 🧡 Xxxxx
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Jane, thanks so much for listening to our conversation. I’m honored to be a guest again and enjoy chatting with Wynne and Vicki. They’re amazing! I appreciate your kind and lovely words so much. Copper was very special, and I know his tail is wagging from all the love he’s received. Thanks again, my friend. ❤️🌈
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Jane! Thank you so much for your kind words about Lauren’s beautiful book. Copper WAS so very special. Yes. xo! 💝💝💝
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I totally enjoyed this excellent interview with Lauren, one of my fave poets.
I found her candid and completely open and loving.
Also, the 2 of you are considerate, empathetic interviewers.
Thank you!
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Thanks so much, Resa, for your support that means so much! I appreciate you taking the time to listen, and I completely agree about Wynne and Vicki. Hugs to the 3 or you! ❤️🌈🤗
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Welcome Lauren!
It’s a wonderful podcast! xxxxx
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Congratulations, Lauren!
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Thanks so much, Dawn! ❤️
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