In this episode, I’m with my dear friend and co-host, Vicki Atkinson, and we are talking about the latest book from author David Brooks, How to Know a Person.
We talk about his great encouragement to be vulnerable enough to be seen and his image of each of us as a creative artist who has a unique way of seeing the world.
And we dive into the methods that help us listen well.
We have a great conversation around what it takes to tell our own stories.
Vicki also shares with us the wisdom she learned listening to David Brooks give a commencement speech when she was a faculty member. She explains why his approach was so much more meaningful than many of the others she heard in her 40 years in academia. Check out this little snippet from our talk:
This is a great episode about how we can be intentional about getting to know others. We know you’ll love it.
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Transcript for Episode 64 of the podcast
Links for this Episode:
Episode 64: Knowing a Person with Vicki and Wynne on Anchor
Vicki’s personal blog: Victoria Ponders
Wynne’s personal blog: Surprised by Joy
Vicki’s recently released book: Surviving Sue
Wynne’s book about her beloved father: Finding My Father’s Faith
The Heart of the Matter 
it is so very important, human connection and understanding. my class has been working all year on identity and we’re hosting an identity gallery for families, where each child will share their journals, their favorite things, a poem, art, name origin, etc. should be wonderful for all to know them
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Oh, what a great yearlong project. How inspiring, Beth!
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I’ve occasionally seen David Brooks talk about the news, but I don’t know anything deeper about him. So I’m interested to listen to your new episode!
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That’s right – he does that too. Hope you like snippets of him in this context – he’s a great storyteller!
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Oh I love where you guys go in your conversations. Human connection, vulnerability, understanding, all good stuff. You must be reading my mind. I think some of your best podcasts have been when you guys just chat … can’t wait to listen!
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Ah, Brian, you are such a good encourager! Love that we are connected with you!
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A real pleasure to listen to the two of you share your insight of David Brook’s work!
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Thank you, Mary!
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Sounds like a great conversation Wynne and Vicki. I will listen this weekend. Looking forward to it. 🤗
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I think you are so good at knowing others, Alegria. Hope this conversation is fun for you!
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There is a worthwhile film called “Scott of the Antarctic” worth watching. Scott made some horrible decisions, in addition to what Vicki described of his stylistic flaws. There is also a wonderful piece, “Vaughan Williams’s Symphony #7, which uses the music he wrote for the film.
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Wow – sounds interesting. I’m putting that on my list. Thanks, Dr. Stein!
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I love the banter and connection between you two. And as I noted in Vicki’s parallel post to this, life is indeed not just about finding ourselves but about creating ourselves. And also I’d add, it offers us grace to reinvent ourselves too. Infinite possibilities so long as we apply ourselves with discipline. I’ll have to pick up Brooks’ works!
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Grace to reinvent ourselves — yes, well said, Ab!
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Being a patient listener is sound advice. Brooks suggestion to flow along with the natural resting pauses of a conversation without prematurely interjecting or asking more questions is a good habit to have.. 🙂
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Nancy, you picked out one of my favorite suggestions. Thank YOU for being such a great listener!
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