Episode 52: Unlocking Secrets with Vicki and Wynne

Posted on by Wynne Leon

In this episode, I’m with my co-host Dr. Vicki Atkinson and we’re talking about unlocking secrets. Both Vicki and I have published books about family. Vicki about her mom, Sue, and me about my dad, Dick. As we’ve discussed in other podcasts, writing about family is hard.

But it’s also instructive – we learn so much about ourselves and where we come from. It’s a path that we’ve found to be so illuminating because we get to build on the secrets from those who went before.

Vicki talks about one of the secrets she learned which was not to keep secrets. Is it possible that underlying all or most of Sue’s issues was the toxicity of keeping secrets?

And what secrets did I learn from my dad? My dad had a formula for doing the next right thing, staying focused on what he was called to do, and then turning over the results to a Higher Power. The luxury I got was being able to talk to him about that as well as see him live it day in and day out.

Like Vicki was able to do with her dad, Sonny. Sonny had the 10-5 rule. Acknowledge people within 10 feet and greet them within 5 feet. It’s the kind of secret that carries itself forward in generational goodness.

Vicki and I have a great conversation about these secrets and more. We talk about all the benefits that come from writing about life. The secrets that we are able to pick up by diving down deep to find pearls of wisdom. It’s hard work – but the payoff is huge! Please join us in this episode as we share what we learned. We know you’ll love it!

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Transcript for Episode 52 of the podcast

Links for this Episode:

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Wynne’s post about her dad’s formula for success: Fatherly Wisdom

Vicki’s post about the 10-5 rule: Sunny Sonny

Vicki’s personal blog: Victoria Ponders

Wynne’s personal blog: Surprised by Joy

Vicki’s recently released book: Surviving Sue

Wynne’s book about her beloved father: Finding My Father’s Faith

23 thoughts on “Episode 52: Unlocking Secrets with Vicki and Wynne”

  2. Sounds like an intriguing topic, Wynne. It spurs lots of thoughts about the secrets that should be disclosed and those that must be kept, the interest of the self and the interest of others. I am sure the conversation is stirring.

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  4. It always befuddles me when someone walks through a door before you and lets it shut in your face. Or, when doors are held open and someone goes through first and holds the door open as they stretch away from it. Both your dads sound like gentlemen that knew how to show respect for others–and acknowledge their existence. Many have their heads down glued to a phone. You’re so right-communicating with family members is important to build trust and healthy relationships.

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  7. Thank you Wynne for giving me a new meaning to the word “secret.” It’s such a dark word for me (and I suspect most people.) But hearing you talk about your father, it makes me realize it’s not a dark word, it can also be the formula that we follow in life. I love how you phrased in your past post: “love where you are at, believe you are not alone and care for others along the way.” Now if I can just follow it!!!!! Ha, ha.

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  9. Not keeping secrets is indeed a top secret rule to getting along with family. And from your writings, it’s lovely to learn from your dad about how to the next right thing. I also like the 10-5 rule. We could all learn from that. 🙏

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